Ep: 199 - The Six Stalkers, Part 5: Political Stalkers - The Psychology of Stalking Behavior

Today, we will discuss the 5th type of stalker under the Ronald Holmes model- The political Stalker. This is a kind of stalker that is not driven by sexual desire or intimacy, but by ideology. The radicalized behavior and delusional thinking has torn at the fabric of our society since the beginning of society itself. Since the assassination of Julius Caesar and before, Political stalkers have been altering the course of our history.

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Ep: 182 - Scale of Evil: Interview with The Experts - The Psychology of Murder

We are SO excited to provide you with this fascinating conversation between myself, Dr. Michael Stone & Dr. Gary Brucato - The renowned experts behind "The Gradations of Evil" Scale and their new book "The New Evil: Understanding the Emergence of Modern Violent Crime".

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Ep: 173 - Scale of Evil, (Part 10) “Death House Landlady” - The Psychology Of Serial Killers

Do serial killers and murderers have to look like the devil to be one? In this episode, we present the Case of Dorothea Puentes, one of the most cited cases for level 15 on Dr. Michael Stone’s Gradations of Evil Scale.

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Ep: 171 - The Six Stalkers (Part 2) “The Shoe Fetish Slayer" - The Psychology of Stalking and Foot Fetishes - Jerome Brudos (Preview)

Jerome (Jerry) Brudos, a serial murderer from Oregon, is an example of the lust stalker, and the next subject of the 6 types of stalkers. Jerome Brudos is notable for his foot fetish, his obsession with women’s shoes, but also his escalating pattern of savagery.

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Ep: 168 - Scale of Evil, (Part 9) “Mommy & Clyde”- The Psychology of Murder

Shante Kimes spent her entire life as a murderous con artist, ruthlessly scheming against anyone she can benefit from. Now that her son Kenneth is older and her husband is dead, Shante has recruited Kenneth- and the two work together to create chaos.

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Ep: 158 - Manson Vs. Jones - The Psychology of Cult Leaders and Serial Killers (Preview)

We delve into what's the difference between a "Serial Killer" and a "Cult Leader". What is the psychological profiles of Jim Jones, and Charles Manson? We also discuss the differences between spree murder, and mass murder, using two of the most notorious villains in history.

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Ep: 157 - Netflix's "YOU" Season 2- Stalker Analysis - The Psychology of Stalkers, Psychopaths, and Murder

We dive into Netflix’s You Season 2. Michael Drane discusses the psychological profile of Joe Goldberg, Love Quinn, and Forty Quinn. He dives into the analysis of these characters and discusses how this effects the story. Haven’t seen Season 2 yet? Beware of spoilers!

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Ep: 146 - Scale of Evil (Part 7) Cornered Killers - The Psychology of Murder

In May of 1977 a sadistic Mormon cult leader Ervil Lebaron orders his cult to walk into a clinic and gun down a rival cult leader. This is where our episode on the level 12 scale of evil begins- With a warning about what it means to follow your own killer down a path of weaponized religiosity. Michael drane, true crime, forensics, killer, dr. Michael Stone, gradation of evil, scale of evil,

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Ep: 144 - The Case of Jeffrey MacDonald - The Psychology of Murder

We dive into the mysterious True Crime case of Jeffery MacDonald. This is the case that ALMOST made it onto UPC as level 11 on Dr. Stone's "Scale of Evil". Media sources who have reviewed The Scale of Evil have cited Jeffrey MacDonald as a level 11 murderer, even though there is serious controversy around this case.

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Ep: 130 - Scale of Evil (Part 3) Hot Heads & Fits of Rage - The Psychology of Murder

We cover levels 6-8 on Dr. Michael Stones "Gradation of Evil Scale”. How can anger push someone to murder?

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Ep: 129 - Scale of Evil (Part 2) Provoked Self-Defense & Desperate Measures Murder - The Psychology of Murder


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Prof. Michael Drane reviews level 4 & 5 in this multi-part mini-series


Self-Defense Murder: Level 4

These people kill in self-defense, but they aren't entirely innocent themselves; they may have been "extremely provocative" toward their victim. Traumatized, desperate persons who killed abusive relatives or other people, but who show remorse for their crime and are not psychopaths.

Desperate Measures Murder: Level 5

These are traumatized, desperate killers of abusive relatives or others -- but they lack “significant psychopathic traits” and are genuinely remorseful.

Check out The New Evil: Understanding the Emergence of Modern Violent Crime. Copyright © 2019 by Michael H. Stone, MD, and Gary Brucato, PhD.

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Unpopular Culture Podcast is a psychology podcast hosted by Professor & Psychoanalyst Michael Drane. With help from professionals in different fields, he seeks to shine light into the broken underbelly of society.

Listen as he takes on the psychology behind subjects like:

True Crime: serial killers, murders, stalkers, cults, forensic analysis

Psychology: mental illness, social phenomenon, mob mentality, psychoanalysis, etc. 

Culture: Sexuality, Satanic Panic, love, Tv analysis, movie analysis. 

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Ep: 125 - Scale of Evil (Part 1) Levels 1,2, and 3 (Self Defense Murder) - Reviewing Dr. Michael Stone's "Scale of Evil"


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Prof Michael Drane reviews Dr. Michael Stone's "Scale of Evil" using infamous cases. This episode looks at the first 3 levels of murder- Self Defense, Jealousy, & Companion Murders

Check out The New Evil: Understanding the Emergence of Modern Violent Crime. Copyright © 2019 by Michael H. Stone, MD, and Gary Brucato, PhD.


A Brief Description of The Scale Of Evil in This Episode


NOT EVIL

1. Justified Homicide

The least malevolent: Those who have killed in self-defense and do not show psychopathic features.

2. Jealous Lovers, Non-Psychopathic

Though egocentric or immature, evildoers in this category committed their crimes in the heat of passion.

3. Willing Companions Of Killers

Still far from psychopathic, some have antisocial traits and an aberrant personality. They're often driven by impulse.


About Dr. Michael Stone


Dr. Michael Stone is a professor of clinical psychiatry at Columbia. His specialty is personality disorders - most especially “borderline personality disorder.” But in recent years he has concentrated as well on the extremes of personality, as shown by persons who show antisocial, psychopathic, and sadistic traits. This led to an interest in the kinds of people committing murder - spanning the spectrum from jealousy murders to serial killers and torturers. Recently he served as the host of the Discovery Channel show, “Most Evil,” for which he was sent around the country interviewing serial killers and murderers of other types. This experience, plus his research over the past twenty years, led to his writing The Anatomy of Evil (appearing in July of 2009). The book explores the “why” factor: what are the inborn and environmental factors that cause certain people to commit murder and, at the extreme end, to behave with uncommon cruelty toward their fellow man. Modeled after Dante’s Inferno, the book progresses from the least to the most “evil” crimes, and contains a chapter devoted to recent contributions from neuroscience toward understanding the mind of the psychopath.


Unpopular Culture Podcast is a psychology podcast hosted by Professor & Psychoanalyst Michael Drane. With help from professionals in different fields, he seeks to shine light into the broken underbelly of society.

Listen as he takes on the psychology behind subjects like:

True Crime: serial killers, murders, stalkers, cults, forensic analysis

Psychology: mental illness, social phenomenon, mob mentality, psychoanalysis, etc. 

Culture: Sexuality, Satanic Panic, love, Tv analysis, movie analysis. 

We are an independent psychology podcast. Help us keep UPC free of ads and on the air. Please consider supporting the show and get access to our "Stalkers Only" archive, and help be a part of the creative process.

Support the Show! —> patreon.com/upcpodcast 


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Ep: 118 - Murder for Hire - The Psychology of Contract Killing

People kill for pleasure, but what about those who kill for money? "What are the different types of murder, and what motivates a contract killer?" Mass murderers, serial killers, and paid assassins, is there a difference between these types? Is murder for hire the same thing as serial murder, or perhaps something else entirely? We are a forensic psychology podcast that focuses on true crime.

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Ep: 113 - I'm in Love With a Serial Killer - Psychology of Murder and Love

What would it take for you to fall in love with a serial killer? Why would someone fall in love with someone who committed such crimes? We dive into the psychological phenomenon known as "Hybristophillia".

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Ep: 109 - Netflix’s “You” Season 1 - The Stalker Analysis of Joe Goldberg

We dive into the hit Netflix show “You”. Michael will give a psychological analysis of Joe Goldberg. What type of stalker and serial killer is Joe? What are the things to look for in Joe’s history that might give you a clue? Does biology or how he was raised (Nature vs. Nurture) have more to do with his way of life?

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Ep: 81 - Lust Murder - The Psychology of Sex And Murder

This type of serial killer seeks sexual gratification from the murders they commit. We dive into the mind of 2 types of Lust-Murder Style Serial Killers. Herb baumeister, the sexual strangulation-style lust murderer. This is an elaboration on the psychology of the different kinds of lust murder, including some infamous examples, and themes I've seen in my own forensic work.

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