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Ep: 214 - Scale of Evil, (Part 12) - The Psychology of Rape and Murder


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What kind of serial killer keeps you up at night? We might have a nominee for you. In this Episode: The transition to Category 17 is what Michael Stone calls “a move into the darkest territory of the Gradations of Evil scale—covering a wide array of serial killers, torturers, and sadists. “

Long behind us are the killers who kill in self-defense, or because they momentarily lost their reasoning, their sanity….

The level 17 killer is something else, something darker. • They kill purely for the psychological gratification of the murder itself.

What sets the level 17 killer apart is their attacks usually involve some kind of sexual contact with their victim.

To review Michael Stone’s Gradations of Evil scale is to try and understand the motives behind WHY people do these things. Sometimes, even the killers themselves can’t explain it.

When you look at the examples commonly given for level 17, you find familiar names- Ted Bundy & Richard Ramirez- two serial rapists and sadists. Utterly unfeeling.

The thing is, both of these cases have been covered Ad nauseam on this and every other podcast. - So I don’t want to focus on the stories of Richard Ramirez and Ted Bundy as much as I want to talk about the pathology of the level 17 killer, using Ramirez and Bundy as examples.

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Unpopular Culture Podcast is a psychology podcast hosted by Professor & Psychotherapist Michael Drane. With help from professionals in different fields, he seeks to shine light into the broken underbelly of society.

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Unpopular Culture Podcast - Ep: 214 - Scale of Evil, (Part 12) - The Psychology of Rape and Murder - We are a forensic psychology podcast that focuses on True Crime, pop culture and psychological phenomenon.

Category 17 is a dark part of the Gradations of Evil scale. Its covers serial killers, torturers, and sadists. They kill for the gratification of the murder itself, and can involve sexual contact with their victim. Ted Bundy & Richard Ramirez- two serial rapists and sadists. We are a forensic psychology podcast that focusing on True Crime, pop culture, and psychological analysis. Michael Drane